Moby Dick rules
I think we all agreed that Moby Dick is a worthwhile read. Maybe not such a great candidate for books on tape, but definitely good reading.
What did we like? The language, the symbolism, the style, the imagery. The historical period, the locations, the ocean. The action, the lulls, the rhythm. At least I liked those things.
Main discussion question: Who was ultimately responsible for the destruction of the Pequod? Was it Ahab, or the crew who followed him? Was it the owners who let him captain their ship, or was it all in the hands of fate?
The discussion went unfinished, to be continued at our next meeting.
What did we like? The language, the symbolism, the style, the imagery. The historical period, the locations, the ocean. The action, the lulls, the rhythm. At least I liked those things.
Main discussion question: Who was ultimately responsible for the destruction of the Pequod? Was it Ahab, or the crew who followed him? Was it the owners who let him captain their ship, or was it all in the hands of fate?
The discussion went unfinished, to be continued at our next meeting.
posted by Sarah at 7:39 PM
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Also--- I wanted to ask,
"Any modern day examples of an Ahab & Moby?"
I was thinking on the way home that I was Ahab and "Moby Dick" was my Moby Dick.
I guess one example would be George Bush and democracy in Iraq with the final tragedy not being his own demise but the demise of the legacy that might have been his. He's more Johnson than FDR. That I'm suggesting this example should not be taken to mean that I'm among the throngs of people who hate the guy. Just an example that came to me right away.
Sarah, thanks for hosting! It was very fun, the snacks were yummy and the wine was delicious.
While reading about Ahab --- I couldn't get Bush out of my mind! And he's more crazy than Johnson or FDR.
Election time is a very scary time at my house. Me being the level-headed Dem and Paul being the psycho Rep.
Oops! Didn't mean to suggest FDR was crazy.
Well, you can basically thank Trader Joe's for both the snacks and the wine. I'm glad you enjoyed them.
I think Bush is a really good example of a modern-day Ahab. Richard Pombo, with his crusade to destroy the endangered species act, is perhaps another. Can we think of non-political examples? Do we have any personal acquaintances that come to mine? Not that I'm implying anyone's nearest and dearest are crazy or deranged in any way.
BTW, Lesley, how was Paul after the election? Is he shaking his head at the foolishness of the electorate? Or, worse yet, angry at their idiocy?
Can we, without being Ahabs, have Moby Dicks? Because, Zelda, hard as you try, you will never have the brooding, menacing presence required of a genuine Ahab. And I actually think you can probably finish the book without destroying yourself and those around you. Yet I can see how the sheer enormousness of the task can seem whale-like, and the job of slogging through to the end can take on epic proportions. It's actually easier, though, for me, (not to mention more enjoyable) to get through it reading two or three pages at a time whenever I feel like it, than to try to power through.
Wow. That must be crazy. Rick and I are more or less on the same page. I'm a conservative and he's a Libertarian.
Neither of us was angry after the election. We were amused that everyone was all, "Yes...democracy work!" Especially after all the pearl-clutching and hand-wringing about stolen votes in other recent elections.
Balance is good. The Republican party needs a smack on the a** and I am breaking my rule about not talking politics AGAIN!
I'm not sure if I know of anyone I know personally that I would consider an Ahab. I'll think about it.
There are some large corporations in this valley big enough to have the economy of a small country. So without getting into politics, you can view the executives as Ahab, and their goal (share hold value, profit margin, their own reputation) as Moby Dick, and the company is the boat. How many had given up their honesty and integrity, cooked the books, lied to their employees, all in an attempt to reach the imaginary goal. Some are now in jail, Ken Lay just died of a heart attack this year. No doubt he could have lived longer partying at Enron.
Okay, well I say that's a good example, Vivian. Thanks!
I still want to know how Paul's doing.
And now I want to know if Zelda actually likes George Bush, or is just neutral about him. If she can break her rule just one more time .....
Ken Lay is a great example.
I always do break my own rules and I always hate myself in the morning.
I don't care for him as a president. At all.
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